AI vs. AI: Automating Defense to Outpace Automated Attacks

In this episode, Dr. Dave Chatterjee speaks with Roi Cohen, CEO and Co-Founder of Vicarius, about the urgent need to counter AI-driven attacks with equally automated defenses. Cohen, who began his career managing mission-critical systems in the military, shares his journey through leadership roles at CyberArk and the launch of Vicarius. Drawing from real-world penetration tests at hospitals and Ivy League institutions, he illustrates how attackers exploit simple misconfigurations to access sensitive data. Together, they examine why defenders must move beyond manual, ticket-based remediation to keep pace with adversaries leveraging agentic AI.
The conversation highlights that automation, while essential, is insufficient without human oversight and governance discipline. Anchored in Dr. Chatterjee’s Commitment–Preparedness–Discipline (CPD) framework, the discussion highlights the organizational mindsets and technological building blocks needed to sustain resilience. Cohen emphasizes the hybrid future of AI and human collaboration, where transparent reasoning and flexible control are vital for trust.
To access and download the entire podcast summary with discussion highlights -https://www.dchatte.com/episode-90-ai-vs-ai-automating-defense-to-outpace-automated-attacks/
In this episode, Dr. Dave Chatterjee speaks with Roi Cohen, CEO and Co-Founder of Vicarius, about the urgent need to counter AI-driven attacks with equally automated defenses. Cohen, who began his career managing mission-critical systems in the military, shares his journey through leadership roles at CyberArk and the launch of Vicarius. Drawing from real-world penetration tests at hospitals and Ivy League institutions, he illustrates how attackers exploit simple misconfigurations to access sensitive data. Together, they examine why defenders must move beyond manual, ticket-based remediation to keep pace with adversaries leveraging agentic AI.
The conversation highlights that automation, while essential, is insufficient without human oversight and governance discipline. Anchored in Dr. Chatterjee’s Commitment–Preparedness–Discipline (CPD) framework, the discussion highlights the organizational mindsets and technological building blocks needed to sustain resilience. Cohen emphasizes the hybrid future of AI and human collaboration, where transparent reasoning and flexible control are vital for trust.
To access and download the entire podcast summary with discussion highlights -https://www.dchatte.com/episode-90-ai-vs-ai-automating-defense-to-outpace-automated-attacks/
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